Comments on: The Boiler http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:06:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Gordy Schmitt http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2472 Gordy Schmitt Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:03:05 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2472 The trestle Bob mentions had to be a different trestle than the one Mike found the foundations for. The one Mike found would have been for the Ashbed Mine and probably was installed on account of the new mill slightly upstream from the old mill. Chances of finding any water power remains would be tough, since most of the construction was wood. From reading different books in Google, it sounds as if most of the water power was delivered via pipe / launders. The thought of a big water wheel was probably wrong. They depended on the flow of water from a higher point, the force would run whatever piece of equipment. Several times in the books are mention of the height of the one end versus the height at the mill The trestle Bob mentions had to be a different trestle than the one Mike found the foundations for.
The one Mike found would have been for the Ashbed Mine and probably was installed on account of the new mill slightly upstream from the old mill.
Chances of finding any water power remains would be tough, since most of the construction was wood.
From reading different books in Google, it sounds as if most of the water power was delivered via pipe / launders. The thought of a big water wheel was probably wrong. They depended on the flow of water from a higher point, the force would run whatever piece of equipment. Several times in the books are mention of the height of the one end versus the height at the mill

]]> By: Allen http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2471 Allen Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:56:56 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2471 Bob, that makes everything much more clear. Now if someone could find the evidence of the water power. Bob, that makes everything much more clear. Now if someone could find the evidence of the water power.

]]> By: Bob http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2470 Bob Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:27:19 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2470 Monette's book indicates that the old Phoenix mill was revamped in 1901 and fitted with a 50 HP locomotive boiler. This was part of a rehabilitation of the old mill so it could run a couple stamps on water power augmented by steam power. A couple years later a trestle was built over the river as the narrow gauge rail line was extended from the old mill to the St. Clair mine so stamp rock could be brought to the mill for processing. During this period this stampmill had the lowest operating cost of any mill north of Ontonagon Co. The Phoenix was on hard times at this point so low operating cost was the key factor. Monette’s book indicates that the old Phoenix mill was revamped in 1901 and fitted with a 50 HP locomotive boiler. This was part of a rehabilitation of the old mill so it could run a couple stamps on water power augmented by steam power. A couple years later a trestle was built over the river as the narrow gauge rail line was extended from the old mill to the St. Clair mine so stamp rock could be brought to the mill for processing. During this period this stampmill had the lowest operating cost of any mill north of Ontonagon Co. The Phoenix was on hard times at this point so low operating cost was the key factor.

]]> By: Gordy Schmitt http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2469 Gordy Schmitt Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:30:40 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2469 I'll make a mental note to remember that next time I’ll make a mental note to remember that next time

]]> By: explorer http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2468 explorer Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:12:04 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2468 Gordy.. Fixed your problem. If you put more than one link into a comment my spam filter will automatically hold your comment. It will show up for you but not for anyone else. So I went in there and approved it. Thanks Bill for the great link about the boiler... I was looking for something like that as well when I was doing research for this post. Glad you found it! Gordy..

Fixed your problem. If you put more than one link into a comment my spam filter will automatically hold your comment. It will show up for you but not for anyone else. So I went in there and approved it.

Thanks Bill for the great link about the boiler… I was looking for something like that as well when I was doing research for this post. Glad you found it!

]]> By: Gordy Schmitt http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2467 Gordy Schmitt Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:06:56 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2467 Hey Mike, ole Master of exploring, I posted a new post under the Stella Cheese Factory banner under the Putting the Pieces Together story. It doesn't seem to show in the recent comments. I did find a cleaner view of the Stella building on the Michigan DEQ site Hey Mike, ole Master of exploring, I posted a new post under the Stella Cheese Factory banner under the Putting the Pieces Together story.
It doesn’t seem to show in the recent comments.
I did find a cleaner view of the Stella building on the Michigan DEQ site

]]> By: Gordy Schmitt http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2466 Gordy Schmitt Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:57:58 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2466 I tried to find something like that, but of course everything except that would come up. I tried to find something like that, but of course everything except that would come up.

]]> By: Bill In Indiana http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2465 Bill In Indiana Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:44:03 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2465 This link helps explain how a boiler works... http://www.herculesengines.com/Steam/Boiler%20Construction/index.htm This link helps explain how a boiler works…

http://www.herculesengines.com/Steam/Boiler%20Construction/index.htm

]]> By: Bill In Indiana http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2464 Bill In Indiana Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:34:20 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2464 I'm with Gordy...Boiler looks to have had an explosion. I’m with Gordy…Boiler looks to have had an explosion.

]]> By: SMG http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2009/07/the-boiler/comment-page-1/#comment-2463 SMG Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:12:02 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=3551#comment-2463 I tend to agree with the stationary loco boiler but the first time I came upon it I was pretty confused. Why here? Then I looked up and realized there was once a giant structure here, but I am getting ahead of the story. This place is full of mystery isn't it? I tend to agree with the stationary loco boiler but the first time I came upon it I was pretty confused. Why here? Then I looked up and realized there was once a giant structure here, but I am getting ahead of the story.

This place is full of mystery isn’t it?

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