Comments on: Along the Copper Range at Baltic http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:14:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: explorer http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1946 explorer Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:29:23 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1946 The shaft house with the circular steel bin is the No. 3. The Baltic shafts are labeled from south to north, skipping the No. 1 in the process. The photo I use shows the No. 3, No. 4, and No. 5. The No. 2 rock pile is what you see in the foreground, with the shaft sitting just to the right of the photo. As far as coal handling, Baltic had a separate facility about a quarter mile to the south of these ruins. I'll feature it in a future post. The shaft house with the circular steel bin is the No. 3. The Baltic shafts are labeled from south to north, skipping the No. 1 in the process. The photo I use shows the No. 3, No. 4, and No. 5. The No. 2 rock pile is what you see in the foreground, with the shaft sitting just to the right of the photo.

As far as coal handling, Baltic had a separate facility about a quarter mile to the south of these ruins. I’ll feature it in a future post.

]]> By: Gordy Schmitt http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1945 Gordy Schmitt Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:57:06 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1945 I just wonder if those foundations were a way to unload coal. I don't think they were for a water tank. I just wonder if those foundations were a way to unload coal. I don’t think they were for a water tank.

]]> By: Gordy Schmitt http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1944 Gordy Schmitt Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:55:04 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1944 Actually Dale, that second link in your post of Baltic Mines is probably #3 shaft, the #2 shaft was fully closed in. #3 looks like the regular rockhouses in the UP. I had spent time looking at those photos also. In the USGS photo, the close mine is #2. Looking at the Mike's Tech photo and comparing the foundation location I am guessing it would be just to the left of the bigger rock pile between the #2 and #3 shafts and just out of view. In the USGS photo and the Mike's Tech photo, if you look closely there are railroad crossing signs there along with a power/telegraph pole that you can pretty much pinpoint what your looking at. I am also guessing that photo Mike used for the post showing the foundation is after the mines closed or were closed for the strike, as there was a boiler house between #3 and #4 and I don't see any smoke like the other photos. Actually Dale, that second link in your post of Baltic Mines is probably #3 shaft, the #2 shaft was fully closed in. #3 looks like the regular rockhouses in the UP. I had spent time looking at those photos also. In the USGS photo, the close mine is #2. Looking at the Mike’s Tech photo and comparing the foundation location I am guessing it would be just to the left of the bigger rock pile between the #2 and #3 shafts and just out of view. In the USGS photo and the Mike’s Tech photo, if you look closely there are railroad crossing signs there along with a power/telegraph pole that you can pretty much pinpoint what your looking at. I am also guessing that photo Mike used for the post showing the foundation is after the mines closed or were closed for the strike, as there was a boiler house between #3 and #4 and I don’t see any smoke like the other photos.

]]> By: explorer http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1943 explorer Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:00:29 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1943 Perhaps Adam, since the building foundation does seem somewhat hastily constructed (with the use of poor rock and all). But those concrete pillars look to have been used for something heavy and permanent. (why not use wood pilings for something less permanent?) Perhaps Adam, since the building foundation does seem somewhat hastily constructed (with the use of poor rock and all). But those concrete pillars look to have been used for something heavy and permanent. (why not use wood pilings for something less permanent?)

]]> By: adam from detroit http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1942 adam from detroit Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:31:08 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1942 that foundation doesnt look like it was meany for a house or blg to me. i'd say something more along the lines of bins, or stables or sheds or something less permanent & lower-impact. that foundation doesnt look like it was meany for a house or blg to me. i’d say something more along the lines of bins, or stables or sheds or something less permanent & lower-impact.

]]> By: dcclark http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1941 dcclark Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:46:31 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1941 Back to reality -- you mentioned that there's no water tanks on Kevin's map, but perhaps they could have been added later -- or perhaps these were a temporary structure (hence the hastily built bits) while the new track was being laid down? Back to reality — you mentioned that there’s no water tanks on Kevin’s map, but perhaps they could have been added later — or perhaps these were a temporary structure (hence the hastily built bits) while the new track was being laid down?

]]> By: explorer http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1940 explorer Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:38:44 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1940 Probably performed by the same shady organization that perpetuated the Crestview myth no doubt. Probably performed by the same shady organization that perpetuated the Crestview myth no doubt.

]]> By: dcclark http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1939 dcclark Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:21:31 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1939 Deliberately constructed by a slowly dying industry to confuse future explorers. Case closed. Deliberately constructed by a slowly dying industry to confuse future explorers. Case closed.

]]> By: Dale Beitz http://www.coppercountryexplorer.com/2008/11/along-the-copper-range-at-baltic/comment-page-1/#comment-1938 Dale Beitz Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:02:24 +0000 http://coppercountryexplorer.com/?p=2488#comment-1938 Doesn't help solve the mystery, but I did find a couple pics of Baltic shafthouses. Here's one of #2 from 1897 http://www.mg.mtu.edu/MINE_SHAFTS/baltic.jpg And another of a much newer #2 shafthouse, no specific date given: http://www.mg.mtu.edu/MINE_SHAFTS/jr12bal2.JPG And finally, I found this one showing four Baltic shaft houses. It dates from around 1922. http://libraryphoto.cr.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/show_picture.cgi?ID=ID.%20Butler,%20B.S.%20%20189 Click the pic for a closeup, then click again to really zoom in. I think this is a shot of the same scene from a slightly different spot. If the closest shaft in Mike's pic is #5, then I think the second closest shaft in my pic would be #5. I think the mystery structure would be just out of my picture in the left foreground. Doesn’t help solve the mystery, but I did find a couple pics of Baltic shafthouses. Here’s one of #2 from 1897
http://www.mg.mtu.edu/MINE_SHAFTS/baltic.jpg
And another of a much newer #2 shafthouse, no specific date given:
http://www.mg.mtu.edu/MINE_SHAFTS/jr12bal2.JPG
And finally, I found this one showing four Baltic shaft houses. It dates from around 1922.
http://libraryphoto.cr.usgs.gov/cgi-bin/show_picture.cgi?ID=ID.%20Butler,%20B.S.%20%20189
Click the pic for a closeup, then click again to really zoom in. I think this is a shot of the same scene from a slightly different spot. If the closest shaft in Mike’s pic is #5, then I think the second closest shaft in my pic would be #5. I think the mystery structure would be just out of my picture in the left foreground.

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